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Could someone please hint to the writers at the New York Times's "Dining & Wine" section that there's an economic recession under way? Here's from the e-headlines today:

Great Meals for Two, Under $100 (It's Possible)
By FRANK BRUNI
Getting food of some distinction in full-service restaurants and staying below $99 isn't too easy, but it can be done.

Y'know, I've been lying awake at nights preoccupied with the difficulties of finding a decent restaurant meal for under a hundred bucks. Oh dearie, dearie me. Where to turn? And now at last, thanks to those doughty folks at the NYT, I've found a few pointers . . .

Date: 2008-12-10 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcobatus.livejournal.com
Nauseating, yes.

But to the wealthy this is a deal. I know folks in California who think nothing about dropping a grand on dinner. Ho hum, ain't life grand, wonder what the little people are doing tonight?

We never eat out. Too expensive. I freak out if a meal costs more than $20. I prefer handling my own food, fewer bacteria, fewer rat droppings and crickets, not to mention cockroaches. Then there're the sundry excretions of pissed-off chefs and cooks and waiters, which can quite possibly end up as relish on your dish, just on account of . . . whatever mood the staff are in that day.

Just ain't worth the dollar out-lay.

I know, I'm no fun. But I do love a good picnic or BBQ.

Date: 2008-12-10 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

Personally I enjoy eating out (the rare occasions we do!), but not if the bill's going to be a major heart-stopper.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcobatus.livejournal.com
But everything's so expensive these days, that eating out is a heart stopper. At least it is for me. I'd rather spend the money on something else, like books. Yes. Books.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

"I'd rather spend the money on something else, like books."

But books are an essential, like water. We're talking about luxuries here.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] possumqueen.livejournal.com
I love to dine out, but average people are searching for dinner-for-two under $50.00, including drinks. And that's if they can afford to dine out at all, even once or twice a year. :) Deprivation is in the eye of the beholder.

Date: 2008-12-10 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

"average people are searching for dinner-for-two under $50.00, including drinks. And that's if they can afford to dine out at all"

Precisely.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
I believe it was a NYT food correspondent, Craig Claiborne, who wrote about a $4,000 meal at a restaurant. A quarter century ago.

Date: 2008-12-10 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

And 8 hours later what was it worth?

Date: 2008-12-10 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcobatus.livejournal.com
Oh, we know the answer to that, don't we, Obi-Thog Kenobi? It has something to do with entropy.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
The same as any other shit.

Date: 2008-12-10 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

You mean not even any golden sparkles? What a swiz!

Date: 2008-12-11 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
That would depend on what you ate.

Date: 2008-12-10 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietselkie.livejournal.com
I'll just go on being a plebe, I guess. Not that I'm likely to travel to NYC anytime soon.

Date: 2008-12-10 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

There are plenty of places in NYC where you can get a fine meal for two for far less than a hundred bucks, I assure you.

Date: 2008-12-10 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonfiction.livejournal.com
My favorite meals in NYC usually involve street vendors and hot dogs...

Well under a hundred bucks. :)

(Though potentially just as heart-stopping, alas!)

Date: 2008-12-10 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

"My favorite meals in NYC usually involve street vendors and hot dogs..."

Mine usually involve sushi or biriani, but they're still well under $100 for the pair of us -- more like $40, including hooch.

Date: 2008-12-11 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonfiction.livejournal.com
That's one of the things I miss most about the Northeast, the variety of international foods.

Took a long time to find a sushi place here in Dayton I wasn't afraid of. (Kinda far from salt-water, you know?) And we've recently become enamored with a Turkish restaurant. But generally, unless you want to eat Korean food at one of the half dozen places right outside of the Air Force base gate, you really have to work to find good international food.

Date: 2008-12-11 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

I know the problem. Our nearest (barely adequate) Indian restaurants are about 30 miles away -- or we could go into NYC, 45 miles away. Since I'm from the UK (Indian restaurant on every corner) and Pam lived 20 years in NYC (likewise), this is Very Difficult for us.

We have a good Thai restaurant locally. We have a supermarket that has a surprisingly acceptable (not wonderful) sushi counter. But if we suddenly get a hankering for, say, a Greek meal?

Date: 2008-12-10 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
You're not going to make sophomore at West Point?

Date: 2008-12-10 07:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] al-zorra.livejournal.com
Yes it has been so heartwarming, so touching, the great concern the NY Times food and drink and style sections have been demonstrating for the dreadful shrinkage in budgets of the wealthy for conspicuous consumption.

Love, C. Who is so pleased she can cook, and who walks many blocks in order to be able to purchase fresh produce lots that she can afford. The same vegetables cost 3 times as much at the local supermarket than in Chinatown.

Date: 2008-12-10 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

It's sort of like going to a soup kitchen and handing out $5-Off coupons for caviar, isn't it?

Date: 2008-12-10 10:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] quilterbear.livejournal.com
Excellent example.

Date: 2008-12-10 07:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] quilterbear.livejournal.com
honestly. give me a break!

Date: 2008-12-10 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

Okay, I will!

Er, what is it you want the break from?

Date: 2008-12-10 10:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] quilterbear.livejournal.com
ummm people that write articles like that!

Date: 2008-12-10 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
How do you break lunch?

Date: 2008-12-10 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

"How do you break lunch?"

Messily.

Date: 2008-12-10 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
You must have a liquid lunch.

Date: 2008-12-10 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

It is after it's been thoroughly broken.

Date: 2008-12-11 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
Got to watch out for those glass shards.

Date: 2008-12-10 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

"leg?"

Talking of which, the first Test starts tomorrow. Are you going to be poring over cricinfo.com, like me?

Date: 2008-12-10 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
Alas, no. I'm going to the dentist. Then, if I'm alive, I'm going to be marking papers. Or contemplating suicide. Or both.

Date: 2008-12-10 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com

If the ODIs are any guide, we'll be able to catch the last few overs of the day before our breakfasts.

When I underwent pre-admission testing (twice!) back in May, the guy who drew my blood was an Indian. Pam couldn't understand why, the first time, we emerged from his little room as Best Buddies. I had to explain to her that I'd been able to tell him the latest score (at least, before we'd left home) in whatever Test it was underway in the UK at the time. As he observed, Months On End could go by without him having a patient who could bring him such crucial information.

Date: 2008-12-10 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
Ah. The important things in life.

Date: 2008-12-12 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sci-o-biscuits.livejournal.com
Last week, I read a headline in an Israeli newspaper -

10 Ten Hummus Restaurants in Tel Aviv

The first restaurant description came with a photo of its hummus. Whole (not ground) chick peas in a bowl with some seasonings. Prices were WELL UNDER $100.

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