realthog: (leaving fortusa)
realthog ([personal profile] realthog) wrote2008-07-25 09:21 pm

McTosh

 
Anyone who thinks they know anything about US politics based on the coverage given by the US mainstream media should urgently read this article. Jamison Foser is always excellent in his media analysis, and nowhere more so than here.

One campaign is talking bilgewater (e.g., and from a long long list, Iran is accused of aiding Sunnis), and much of the mainstream media is basically stenographing this crap. The other campaign is trying to make this a proper debate about the future the US -- and the world -- should have. The first campaign is whingeing about unfair media treatment, despite the facts on the ground. The second is saying little on the subject.

See? I'm not biased. I'm not saying which campaign is which.
 

[identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com 2008-07-26 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)

"sometimes the hypocrisy is just too heavy to be borne"

It's stomach-turning, yet our highly paid punditocracy by and large appears not to be affected by it -- and appears not to be aware that a large slice of the US public is as nauseated by the hypocrisy as you or I. They seem not to have noticed that the choir they're preaching to left the room a while ago.

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-07-26 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The assumption is that nobody has a memory that lasts longer than a week.

[identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com 2008-07-26 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)

"The assumption is that nobody has a memory that lasts longer than a week."

The trouble is that 98% of the time this assumption is correct.

Remember Il Buce's claims to have invaded Iraq because Saddam wouldn't let the UN inspectors in?

Complete crap, easily disproven, about events of just a few months earlier. Yet . . .

Likewise, a recent survey shows that 10% of the population think Obama's a Muslim. Huh? Under which rock have these 30 million people been?

[identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com 2008-07-26 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)

What's ironic is that the same doltish 10% who think he's a Muslim are probably among those readiest to flay him for having the Reverend Wright as his pastor.

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-07-26 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
The rock of cognitive dissonance under which a Muslim has a radical Xtian pastor who spouts Black Theology of Liberation...

But consider this: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/article.php?id=AIA2008072401

That's written by political scientists who have some idea of what they're talking about.

[identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com 2008-07-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)

I for the most part don't know what I'm talking about, but their conclusions exactly echo my own.

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-07-27 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm hoping they're reading the data right. In my professional opinion they seem to be. My own reading is that the Democrats have pulled ahead, but I wonder to what extent that's based on hope versus a straight reading of the numbers from the primaries this spring.

[identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com 2008-07-27 01:12 am (UTC)(link)

What was notable in the primaries was that a hell of a lot more Dems than Repugs were voting in them -- twice as many, sometimes more like three times as many.

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-07-27 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
That's the key datum. It suggests that there has been a realignment of political support from the Republicans to the Democrats. We will see in November.

[identity profile] realthog.livejournal.com 2008-07-27 01:34 am (UTC)(link)

My own interpretation was that Dems were much more determined to vote, whereas a lot of Repugs, completely disillusioned with their own party, were unwilling to take part. They might not wish to vote Dem (and obviously in many of the primaries they couldn't), but they might very well stay at home rather than vote for Dubya Mk. 2.

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-07-27 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
We'll see. More than one thing is happening. One of them seems to be a generational shift -- younger voters are not buying some of the culture war bullshit, for one thing. Another is the parlous state of the economy. Yet another is the war without end.