He's going to do a much longer version of it (meaning two more sections at the top) in San Francisco at one of those venues.

It will be recorded by the venue. It will also be published, if EMP does an anthology again this year. But that takes like three years at least to put out.

We are going to look for a venue to publish the longer version -- he doesn't get as much time at EMP -- there are many presenters, and he's one of those who really wants the time that people are given to be observed.

Love, C.